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#117818 - 07/17/08 08:22 AM arthritis of the larynx?
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I went to a new ENT yesterday with various throat symptoms. One of them is that I have a chronically tender spot on one side of my larynx. He felt it and asked me if I had arthritis. He said that arthritis will sometimes affect the larynx.

I came home and did a google search, but everything that I found talked about arthritis of the larynx being associated with RA. Has anyone ever heard of this being associated with spondy?

Brenda
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peripheral spondyloarthropy, HLA-B27+, iritis, naproxen 500 mg, 2x/day, trochanter bursitis, Joint Hypermobility Syndrome, migraines, SI joint dysfunction/hypermobility, DDD L4/L5 and L3/L4, straightening of cervical spine, diabetes, sleep apnea.

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#117828 - 07/17/08 10:50 AM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: poodlegirl]
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Hi Poodlegirl. I have had throat problems (diagnosed by an ENT with chronic tonsilitis) for years and was told by a rheumy that my tonsils were bad because of the inflammation from my AS. Actually one rheumy that I was seeing before the one that told me this said "oh . . . we'll have your tonsils removed" . . . my response "not in my lifetime" especially at the ripe old age of 54!! Needless to say, I don't see either one of these doctors anymore. I guess you could say, I ran in fear. Feel better. Peace. L.

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#117855 - 07/17/08 12:45 PM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: Lynne from CT]
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I searched on the terms "ankylosing spondylitis" larynx and this came up - seems it's possible your larynx prob is related to spondy but be sure to get it thoroughly checked out just in case it's something more insidious.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3972453
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#117856 - 07/17/08 01:10 PM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: poodlegirl]
AnarchyMom Offline
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Originally Posted By: poodlegirl
I went to a new ENT yesterday with various throat symptoms. One of them is that I have a chronically tender spot on one side of my larynx. He felt it and asked me if I had arthritis. He said that arthritis will sometimes affect the larynx.Brenda


Is your tender spot on the outside or do you mean you have a tender spot inside your mouth?

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#117859 - 07/17/08 02:40 PM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: AnarchyMom]
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Jen, that is an interesting article. Thanks for finding it for me. It does make me wonder if the diagnosis is correct or not.

AnarchyMom, the best way I can explain it is that left side of my throat bothers me all the time, at a very low level. This has been going on for about 20 years. When I press on a certain spot on my larnyx (on the outside), there is tenderness on the inside. Kind of like when you press on a swollen gland from the outside and it feels tender.

I have had in-office scoping, a CT and an MRI. They can't see anything that would cause a problem. I had the CT about 15 years ago and the MRI one year ago. The pain level is always about the same. It only gets worse if I get a sore throat from a sinus infection or strep.

He does think that I have reflux and that is causing the tickle/cough at the base of my throat. But the larnyx spot is too high for reflux, in his opinion and I don't have the symptoms of laryngeal reflux (hoarseness, chronic cough, feeling of lump in throat).

I did have lots of of tonsilitis growing up, but still have my tonsils. He said that I have scarring and ridging around the left tonsil, but it is too far away from the larnyx to be related to the tenderness there.

Brenda


Edited by poodlegirl (07/17/08 03:00 PM)
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#117876 - 07/18/08 06:18 AM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: poodlegirl]
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Brenda, this is fascinating to me as my grandmother - who by her self report may have RA, she has trouble keeping stuff straight, she's 87 - has had throat problems for a couple years now. She's been worked over pretty thoroughly as well - I wonder if it's something related to arthritis that's causing her issues! I'm going to print off some stuff to show her when I see her next week. Sorry you are struggling with this and no good answers - but thanks for alerting me to the fact that this exists!!
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Jen, 42, happy partner of James and Moma to Evan, 14, & Lucy, 12.5 (Crohn's dx @ age 3; on Remicade since April 2010.) I take piroxicam, Flexeril, & Nucynta ER nightly. 3 anti-TNFs didn't pan out for me.

"Science is the father of knowledge, but opinion breeds ignorance." -- Hippocrates

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#118120 - 07/21/08 02:52 PM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: JenInCincy]
poodlegirl Offline
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Jen, I'm glad that this info was helpful to you. When I was reading about the larynx and RA, one article said that 25% of people with RA get arthritis in the larynx. And it can also get into the bones of the ear. You know those little ones in the hearing mechanism. Good grief! I would never have dreamed that could happen.

Hope your grandmother gets some help with her throat!

Brenda
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peripheral spondyloarthropy, HLA-B27+, iritis, naproxen 500 mg, 2x/day, trochanter bursitis, Joint Hypermobility Syndrome, migraines, SI joint dysfunction/hypermobility, DDD L4/L5 and L3/L4, straightening of cervical spine, diabetes, sleep apnea.

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#118154 - 07/21/08 06:10 PM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: poodlegirl]
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poodlegirl-I've been having throat problems for the past couple years. (See my other past posts on this subject.) It got worse when I took the infusion drug remicade. We stoped the drug and my throat settled down. Was so bad one time went to my primary ENT. Upond discovery via CAT, I have a bone 'mass' protruding INWARD into my throat. They say that is due to AS. I do wish there was more discusion on this subject as well. I am now recouperating from my sinus surgery. Blew out the crap in my nostrils, clean or took off the anoids, and smoothed over my pharengeal flap I had as a kid. Hope you find some answers, poodlegirl.
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#118157 - 07/21/08 07:27 PM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: flip]
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I showed this article to my husband because I've had that same sensation in the larnyx and, like you, it worsens with even a mild sore throat. The article says that in rare cases the vocal folds can become fixed.

He's really excited. He like "cool....cause then you couldn't spam about your AS anymore." I promised him if I could no longer talk, then I would moan in pain until it drove him INSANE.

Hehehe. You all know he was just kidding.

I also told him it can spread to the ear bones, and then I wouldn't have to listen to his sick sense of humor!!!

Thanks for posting the article.
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#118241 - 07/22/08 06:17 PM Re: arthritis of the larynx? [Re: poodlegirl]
Eileenc Offline
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Hi Brenda,

I haven't been here in a while and I'm so glad I popped in this evening! I've been experiencing hoarseness and swelling of my left supra-clavicular lymph node for months. I've had a CT with and with contrast that has shown I have some sort of growth to the left of my throat as well as between my larynx and trachea, with adenoid swelling. An ENT also did the in-office scope down the throat, said I had GERD and has me taking 40 mg daily of prilosec and didn't say boo about the growth.

The information ya'll just provided amps up my once deflated inspiration; I get so tired of trying to find out what the hell is wrong with me, I sortof gave up trying. So thanks for posting this and keep updating if you can.

Eileen
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