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I'm sure many of you already know this, but I didn't until recently... the spice turmeric is great for inflammation! I first started using it as a hot tea, then switched to pill form this week, and my inflammation is much less than when I take ibuprophen or Tramadol! Just thought I'd share this and ask if any others have tried it (please don't tell me it's all my imagination, LOL). Here's one of many stories I've read about this amazing spice...

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1910028,00.html

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I am an Indian and have been eating typical Indian food every day of my life. Anyone who is familiar with Indian food wil know that it has turmeric in significant portions.
I can confiedently say that it has not made any impact on my inflammation.


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Hi Petunia, yes, this has come up here before. Glad this is working for you, who cares if it's your imagination (aka placebo effect) or not, the effect is real!!

Tramadol, though, would not reduce inflammation. It is an analgesic (pain med) but not an anti-inflammatory. If the turmeric works better than ibuprofen then maybe you are like me - ibuprofen just doesn't really work (but other NSAIDs do.)

If you use the "search" feature on the Alternative forum you will probably pull up some older threads on the topic.

I've tried a number of things that are natural anti-inflammatories although turmeric is not one - none have helped me. My understanding is that the inflammation of spondylitis and other inflammatory conditions is much more significant than these natural products can combat, in most cases (although obviously individual results may vary as we have seen!)

Hope it keeps working for you! Maybe I will try it smile


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Sorry, forgot to say - this is a great site I have turned to, to get specific info on dosing for other supplements (salicin, Devil's Claw, feverfew for migraines)

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/turmeric-000277.htm

Interesting that turmeric was, in one small study, as effective as steroids in treating uveitis!

Apparently turmeric/curcumin supplements can affect stomach acid production so they should definitely be approached with caution, and especially by people taking meds for stomach acid issues (such as PPIs.)


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Jen, I guess that's the reason tramadol never helped my inflammation... LOL, but I'm going to continue to 'believe' the turmaric helps. If I think it, it's true...

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amen, sistah-friend!

what dose do you take? what form/brand? I have tried a lot of things but always open to one more!


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Originally Posted By: JenInCincy

Apparently turmeric/curcumin supplements can affect stomach acid production so they should definitely be approached with caution, and especially by people taking meds for stomach acid issues (such as PPIs.)


I tried tumeric about a year ago for it's many benefits but had to stop due to the stomach acid side effect. sigh.


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FYI - I heard that the medical effectiveness of turmeric multiplies a HUGE amount if it is taken with a small amount of black pepper at the same time. They recommended using it by cooking it with food, a generous but normal amount. I haven't tried it myself. Have fun!


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dgopal, maybe turmeric works different on different people. I see from your post that Humira didn't work for you, but for me it has worked.

Jen, I've been taking 500 mg. capsules twice a day. I bought them at wallyworld... I swear it has made a difference in my inflammation! I read the article you posted, very interesting. At least their exists the possibility that turmeric DOES fight inflammation!

Poodlegirl, I've been taking the pills with meals, hoping they won't hurt my delicate stomach. I have to be very careful because of severe allergies.

Sundance, are you trying to make me sneeze?!! LOL

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well..humira and other anti tnfs or NSAIDs all work well for my back pain..
and unfortunately for me, nothing as simple as turmeric would do it...

its my peripheral issues that I have not found any solution...


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Sorry dgopal. It is my peripheral issues too that I have problems with. But I'm a total optimist in that I'm going to find the cause and cure for my problems! It may not happen, but I'll give it my best shot... and it makes me happy being proactive in my quest for good health. I'm going to fight this disease as long as I can.

And Sundance, I've been reading about pepper added with turmeric, and according to what I've read it DOES help. I thought you were kidding!

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I recently bought a suppliment with turmeric that's in those capsules that go through your stomach to your intestines.. I'm sorry I can't recall the name and it's not with me at the moment. I also saw one that had black pepper in it, but the assistant told me it upsets her stomach. I will be trying it soon and I'll post if I have any luck. I also saw a nighttime suppliment with turmeric in it I'm curious to try. I am skeptical but worth a shot.

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Originally Posted By: michelly
I recently bought a suppliment with turmeric that's in those capsules that go through your stomach to your intestines.


(enteric coated)

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I haven't tried turmeric in significant amounts but a friend of mine adds some to her rice before cooking it. Just an idea!


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I've been taking Tumeric Supreme from Gaia vitamins. It has black pepper in the pill so it's supposed to absorb more of it. I found that taking it and an Aleve work great. I don't have any stomach problems with it.

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I've been taking Nature's Way standardized turmeric (450 mg/tablet, 1 tablet 2x/day) for about 40 days now and have not seen it make any difference - bummed frown


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Hi Jen

That is disappointing when you try something new - I found this interesting paper on a big test of different spices against different bacteria including klebsiella - turmeric was rated quite highly behind chilis...

http://uzspace.uzulu.ac.za/bitstream/handle/10530/554/The%20antimicrobial%20activity%20of%20five%20food%20spices%20when%20tested%20against%20various%20gram-positive%20ľand%20gram-negative%20microorganisms.pdf?sequence=1

I will try and find those links on food triggers and Dr. John Mansfield - from your question on the other thread. My skin has erupted with eczema on my legs and arms with blepharitis eyes since indulging with too much milk chocolate (I usually avoid cows milk). His work is quoted in this paper (might have posted before?) - http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/4/6/392.pdf



Strength to you all! Whatever you try...

About 75% better than the worst I have been... but still flare from time to time - I do NSD or LSD in emergencies but always restrict wheat, corn, rye and other grains. Have helped friends with my experiences - 20 years now!
Here is a link to my story -
http://www.arthritisforum.org.uk/stories/storysean.html
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Tumeric can give you reflux. I tried it a few years ago and couldn't continue due to the reflux. Enteric coated might work; glad to know there is one that I can try if I get brave enough. I agree with the clerk that said the black pepper upset her stomach. I need one that is enteric coated with no pepper!

They think it may help prevent Altzheimer's as well.


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Thanks Sean - I was taking it for my SpA, not as an antibiotic, though. The old saying was never truer - everybody responds differently to potential treatments! I was very optimistic as the literature re: turmeric's anti-inflammatory powers is pretty decent. Bummed that it didn't work for me frown But it didn't give me any side effects either.


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I take to tumeric daily as well. The brand I use is called Meriva. I'm not sure if it has helped me because I'm in a bad flare, however it is possible I would be much worse without it. Certainly there is some good medical research showing the biological pathways through which tumeric appears to work. Tonight we had curry which was both spicey and full if tumeric. I'd happily eat that everyday especially if it would help with my arthritis.

There is an Indian remedy called Golden milk which has milk, honey and I think oil and tumeric which you heat together and drink. Some people report that this is very helpful for them. I have a friend from India who says that to ward of flu and colds, her mother would feed her a spoon of honey mixed with tumeric.


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It should be noted that turmeric is estrogenic, so it might not be the greatest drug for (1) men or (2) women who have any reason to be concerned about estrogen-related cancers.


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Enbrel 50mg/week.
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I had not heard that so I looked it up - not a lot of info out there but this page references the "weak phytoestrogenic" properties of turmeric.

http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/turmeric

Probably not enough effect to contribute to breast cancer risk but worth noting along with other potential unintended effects of turmeric consumption.

FWIW, the author of this page suggests a daily dose of 1000 mg of turmeric to combat menopause symptoms - capitalizing on the phytoestrogenic effects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/490796-turmeric-for-menopause/


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yea if i take turmeric i feel less pain and stiffness but more tired and less libido because of estrogen effect


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I would strongly suggest anyone interested in Turmeric's NSAID like properties (curcumin specifically) to try eating the root fresh. For many years I thought turmeric would do nothing for me because I was trying turmeric pills / dried turmeric powder.

My first time eating the fresh root was amazing (it looks like ginger but bright orange inside). The taste is totally different and the anti-inflammatory effect very pronounced. I would say a decent sized root affected me more than a single dose of ibuprofen - and there is NO chance of getting an ulcer from turmeric (and a high chance from typical NSAIDs)

TLDR: Eat the root raw and fresh!

If your local markets dont carry it, amazon has the raw root and it holds up great when shipping (doesnt need to be refrigerated)

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Kawasakiguy: how much of the raw root do you eat? You mentioned a 'decent size', but your decent may be my huge. :-)). I can't take NSAIDS so would love to find a replacement. Ibuprophen always helped my pain but wrecked havoc on my stomach! Thanks


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Does it stain your teeth?

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disregard this. Misread previous posts.

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Turmeric is extremely important in one's diet. I sprinkle a pinch of turmeric from Horton spice mills( http://www.hortonspicemills.com/listing.php?pid=69 ) on all my veggies and rice or add them to soups and smoothies.I add them in my daily tea. Curcumin the active compound in turmeric accounts for much of health benefits. Some doctors even prescribe curcumin supplements. But such supplements may posses negative effects. Hence those supplements should be avoided and instead more of turmeric should be added into our diet.

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does tumeric have starch? I have recently stayed of it as I thought that being no starch would reduce symptoms can anyone help me on this?


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Just to weigh in late... but there's a difference btwn turmeric (the root) and curcumin (which is what's thought to be responsible for the beneficial proprieties of tumeric). Turmeric has low concentrations for curcumin (~2-5%) and curcumin is generally not very well absorbed in the body so if you want to use it therapeutically, research suggests that you would want to take curcumin extract, possibly with bioperine (black pepper extract that may enhance the absorption of curcumin).

Personally, I had good luck with this one (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WT4D57K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1, which has black pepper extract) but then was recommended to switch to Theracumin bc it's supposed to be better (http://naturalfactors.com/product/curcuminrich-theracurmin-2/). But, after a few weeks of taking it, I noticed that I could really tell when my dose of Meloxicam was wearing off (which normally I wouldn't). I checked the ingredients of the "better" one and it doesn't have the black pepper so I plan on going back to one that does have that.

I'm sure that every body reacts differently but there is a decent amount of research on the benefits of curcumin. Of course, there are plenty of problems with the research (was it funded by a group promoting a supplement? what formulation of curcumin did they use? etc). But, it has a very good safety profile and it seems like it's probably worth a try at least for most people.

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