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#281139 08/25/18 08:25 PM
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Hi All,

I am thinking about moving to Canada for Good. But I have many concerns about what kind of medical care will I get there?

1. Will I be able to get humira/cosentyx/enbrel, etc?
2. Will I need to pay out of pocket?
3. Will I be able to afford it?
4. I got spinal reconstruction in January from UCSF. It was very successful and very complex too.
Spinal fusion from T10 to Pelvis and L4 osteotomy.

If I go to canada, will I be able to get same kind of surgery? I am in 30s . Assuming I live another 20 years. If there is a need to go to a ortho specialist, will I be able to get UCSF level care? Will I be able to afford it?

I have many questions in my mind and concerns too.
I know in the end it will come to pros vs cons... But HealthCare is one of my basic needs living such a disease ridden life, I need to have, before I consider about other alternatives.


Thanks in advance for your advice.


Male, early 30s. AS diagnosed Sep 2015. HLAB27+
Current medicines: Omeprazole, Vit D3, Celecoxib(1 tab)/Zorvolex(2 tabs)(alternatimg between these two every week), Pyridoxine, Isoniazid, MTX(3 tab) every wednesday, on humira every two weeks since Dec 2015, Weekly Humira since June 18th 2016
On cosentyx 300mg a month since Dec '16
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1. Will I be able to get humira/cosentyx/enbrel, etc? Yes.
2. Will I need to pay out of pocket? No. But you might have to pay a percentage. Like 150$ a month until you reach 600$, something like that. Then it's 100% covered.
3. Will I be able to afford it? I don't know about your financial situation but I'd say yes. If you can't there are patient assistance programs that can cover the difference.
4. I got spinal reconstruction in January from UCSF. It was very successful and very complex too.
Spinal fusion from T10 to Pelvis and L4 osteotomy. If I go to canada, will I be able to get same kind of surgery? I am in 30s . Assuming I live another 20 years. If there is a need to go to a ortho specialist, will I be able to get UCSF level care? Will I be able to afford it? I'm pretty sure we have the same technology and opportunities that you have in the US. Our healthcare is generally free so nothing to worry about that but you may have to wait longer than in the US.

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You also need to take into account that in most of Canada there is lots of waiting. Generally when you go to a doctor you will be sent to a specialist for many things and the waiting lists tend to be long. My son broke a finger over the summer and had to wait 2.5 weeks for a cast. I cut my thumb open and had to wait 5 hours to get stitches. Generally I am 6-8 months to get a rheumatologist appointment.

The further you are outside the few large cities, the harder it is to get things accomplished as most doctors prefer to work in the bigger cities so they can earn more money.

In Ontario the previous government gutted the system, sometimes i need to seek help but it's a killer when you're waiting all the time.

I believe if you move to Canada it will take some time before you can use the health care system unless you come in as a refugee. Otherwise you will need to cover everything yourself.

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Also to add, Ontario for example does not pay for prescriptions, you will need your work insurance to cover it, or pay out of pocket. There is government assistance but it is very difficult i have heard, you may not qualify, or they would make you try all the NSAIDS first as they want to avoid paying for the expsnsive stuff.

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Thanks seymour and sdot for your responses.
There is a reason why I want to move to canada. "If", that reason was not there I would have been happy where I am.
So, I value your inputs and I think in the end "I will have to see the pros vs cons" compared to USA. I do not want to get political but I am a non immigrant high skilled worker in USA. And I have Insurance through work. And that insurance has been covering all my expenses of healthcare so far. Not the US govt.
I can lose my job any time and I will have to go back to my home country. Where I will not even have the opportunities of health care which many Canadians have.
Personally, I would rather be in Canada, than to run the risk of losing my job one day and running the risk of going back to my home country which is not as advanced as Canada. I am very sure I will be able to get a high skilled job based upon my experience and education in Canada. I already got some offers but I turned them down because of the surgery and recovery. I am not yet ready to move. At-least for next 6 months.

So, now that you know why I asked this question, do you think its worth moving to Canada?
Finally, Is there some official way for me to get the information about healthcare. Where do I start, whom do I contact?

Please Note: I hope we all are here to support each other regardless of our political opinions. That has no place on this forum.
So, I will request if you can give me advice as a fellow sufferer of AS and keep our political opinions to ourselves.

Thanks in advance.


Male, early 30s. AS diagnosed Sep 2015. HLAB27+
Current medicines: Omeprazole, Vit D3, Celecoxib(1 tab)/Zorvolex(2 tabs)(alternatimg between these two every week), Pyridoxine, Isoniazid, MTX(3 tab) every wednesday, on humira every two weeks since Dec 2015, Weekly Humira since June 18th 2016
On cosentyx 300mg a month since Dec '16
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I am a little confused but sorry, hope it was not getting political. Unfortunately every aspect now is focused on politics and especially here we are very political in a way as that is really the new norm of a world run by social media and media companies.

Canada is just like the US in those regards. Unfortunately it is a fact of life to deal with now and must be considered.

If you have job offers take them while you can, if you have the chance to immigrate take it while you can. Even though we have slid to the extreme left i believe opportunities may not last forever, so if you have the chance do it now.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...ts/new-life-canada/health-care-card.html

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Check the link I have posted above and that should guide you.

As i said, it not about being political and having an opinion, it's about being smart enough to know the situation. Politics in each province is different and depending on your needs that will help your decision. Not all provinces are equal so accepting a job somewhere with the health care that does not offer the benefits you need would be pointless, so you have to understand the underlying politics in the province.

Quebec is different than Ontario, and that is political in nature. Failing to recognize these type of things will not at all help your objective.

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If you are interested in applying for permanent residence ("moving to Canada for good") you need to check into the required immigration physical exam. I don't know if simply having AS is automatically a cause for failing the exam. However, according to this CIC News posting https://www.cicnews.com/2014/10/rea...ent-resident-visa-103946.html#gs.IMLnMhE health issues such as Diabetes and Hepatitis A can result in immigration refusal due to the potential cost burden to the Canadian Universal Healthcare system.


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Originally Posted by sdot
I am a little confused but sorry, hope it was not getting political. Unfortunately every aspect now is focused on politics and especially here we are very political in a way as that is really the new norm of a world run by social media and media companies.

Canada is just like the US in those regards. Unfortunately it is a fact of life to deal with now and must be considered.

If you have job offers take them while you can, if you have the chance to immigrate take it while you can. Even though we have slid to the extreme left i believe opportunities may not last forever, so if you have the chance do it now.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...ts/new-life-canada/health-care-card.html


I agree with you. No need to apologize. I was just being cautious that no one personally attacks anyone and derail from the core of my question.
I will read through the links carefully. Given by you(sdot) and NotMeToo. Thanks.


Male, early 30s. AS diagnosed Sep 2015. HLAB27+
Current medicines: Omeprazole, Vit D3, Celecoxib(1 tab)/Zorvolex(2 tabs)(alternatimg between these two every week), Pyridoxine, Isoniazid, MTX(3 tab) every wednesday, on humira every two weeks since Dec 2015, Weekly Humira since June 18th 2016
On cosentyx 300mg a month since Dec '16

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