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Dealing with doubters.
#201894 03/19/11 06:09 PM
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Hi all.

I was wondering if anyone else has problems with parents or other family members not believing in your disease, diagnosis, or severity and how you deal with it. Over the course of my treatment and flares, my father has made it perfectly clear that he pretty much thinks I'm a hypochondriac and over-medicated. Most times I'm able to just ignore these things, but sometimes when I'm going through a really rough patch, it hurts me deeply. My Dad has pretty much always been my support system (my mom has been a substance abuser for years, so I don't look for anything from her). I've offered to take him to appointments, have him meet with my doctors, give him reading material, but none of that changes his mind. When I'm having a difficult time it really hurts and discourages me. I don't know how I can show him that I really am in constant pain. I don't take these medications because I want to, I take them to make it through a normal day...

Sorry for the major vent, but I'm sure that you can now tell this is one of the times I'm really hurting and wishing I had his support.


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Rachel01 #201897 03/19/11 06:34 PM
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Do you live with him? Do you spend a lot of time around him? Because maybe he just needs to see how much pain you are in. I know that since I'm at school, and I dont visit home that often due to my crazy class/work schedual, my parents don't see me when I'm at my worst. Then even when I do go home I (for some stupid reason) put an act on and make it seem like everything is ok and thier are no problems. Its just some defense mechanism that I do to not seem like a marter or something. But than that causes them to not really understand the pain that I'm going through.

My girlfriend on the other hand, she is with me every day, she see's me wincing in pain to put on my shoes and brush my teeth, she see's me brought to tears from the pain more often than I would like. She truely can see tha pain that I'm in and understands it more than anyone else.

So maybe he just need to see you when your at your worst, give him a real sense of how hard it is to live your life and how with out the meds, it would be impossible.


Im 20 years old, I go to culinary school. DX with AS in July 2010. Currently on Tramadol and Flexoril. Starting Humira, or at least trying to get my insurance to improve it first.
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Ken1 #201908 03/19/11 10:39 PM
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You know, it occurs to me that maybe your dad reacts to your situation the way he does because of your mom. If she's a substance abuser, he may be afraid that you are going down that path too so is trying to minimize your symptoms because then you don't need meds. We do funny things to avoid being hurt again, even hurting those we love in the process.


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sqwerlie #201913 03/20/11 12:37 AM
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Denial is a hallmark of substance abuse. Talk with someone who can help you begin to separate.


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WhiteCell #201914 03/20/11 12:50 AM
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I am not an abuser. Thanks for the concern.

Ken, I have lived with my father and he's seen me in very rough times. I guess that's why I don't understand how he can't grasp this.

My parents haven't been together since I was two and my mother mainly abuses alcohol and marijuana, not narcotics, but I suppose that could be a factor.


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Rachel01 #201927 03/20/11 03:01 AM
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Your father has a hard time grasping your condition in the same way he has a hard time grasping the abuse of drugs and alcohol by your mom it would appear. I do not think that you are abusing either. I believe it would be helpful for you to talk with someone/ Does that make sense to you?


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Right Eye Iritis.Trabeculectomy/lens replacement 2006 > DSEK Cornea Transplant 2009.
>Ahmed Shunt 2016 >DSEK Cornea Transplant 2016.
Supra Ventricular Tachycardia. Radio Frequency Ablation 2008.
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WhiteCell #201929 03/20/11 03:13 AM
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Rachel,

My parents have been divorced now for 24 years. These last few weeks have been very difficult for me and as part of my mental healing and acceptance of this disease and I wanted to talk to my dad about what is going on with me health wise. We have an ok relationship that mainly focuses on our careers. So when I told him that I was going part time with work due to my illness he told me that he thought that this was all in my head. That it couldn’t be as bad as I was making it out to be and that I was just giving in to how I was feeling. He accused me of quitting a good career and choosing to focus on being sick.

I guess the reason for me sharing this with you is that I understand. I know how it can suck when a parent who is supposed to understand and offer compassion turns to you and thinks you are either making it up or have just giving into your disease. Flat out it hurts no question there!

The question I had to ask was where do I go from here? The answer for me is that it doesn’t matter what he believes because he isn’t living my life. I am. So I only share the little things and don’t go into details any more. It isn’t something that he can handle and I can’t handle his responses.

I agree with WhiteCell, it would be good for you to talk with someone about this and how to manage the relationship. Especially if he is the only parent who is involved in your life.

Take care of you!
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Mel


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sunshine01 #201957 03/20/11 01:48 PM
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My mother is basically the same way.

she never really understood the severity of the disease and how much pain it brings. and even now that i am diagnosed and on the road to getting better, she has no interest in it. i think she just kind of wants to shut me out until i get better so she just can pretend it never happened. well she will get a rude awakening when she realizes that i am gonna be this way for life. the funny part is she asked the doctor that question and he point blank told her that i will be dealing with this for life. yet she still cannot talk to me about it or anything to do with me getting better other than the occasional "oh so now that you are started on treatment, your gonna be better right? how do you feel? are you ok now?" stuff like that.

its annoying and its frustrating but i look at it this way. she is probably just trying to cope with this the only way she knows hows and that is to shut me out completely. your dad on the other hand wants to make it out to be like you are giving into your diagnosis, like giving up instead of fighting it. even if you are taking meds, like you are supposed to be doing, he looks at that as a form of giving up. he, in his mind, wont be happy unless he sees you functioning without the help of medicine. its just a form of denial. my mom went through that phase also, where she thought i was making all my pain up and that i was just lazy or giving up. now that she accepted that my pain is real it hasnt gotten any better, she just moved onto another way of dealing with it.

its hard but i guess it all comes along with this wonderful disease we have. dealing with all the factors affected in our life.

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Rachel01 #202815 03/26/11 06:10 PM
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Rachel,

You are not alone, when I first started having pain due to the AS no one in my family believed me. My mom thought I was making it up to get attention. When I would limp because of the pain in my hips, she would tell me to stop it. When I couldn't stand up straight anymore she threaten that if I did not get better I would have to have back surgury. She would ask me constatly "are you trying to stand straight," well duh I was trying, did she think I didn't want to stand straight, it was all I wanted to do.
When I could no longer move my hip, my sister thought I was being lazy. My grandma bribed me, telling me she would take me on vacation if I got better.
What people don't understand is that we are in real pain and we can not control the disease.

I am sorry that your dad doesn't believe you, it is bad enough to have the physical pain.


i can't fall back i came too far, hold myself up and love my scars...
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becca #205966 04/27/11 03:47 AM
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My parents believe I am pain, but they are against treatment. Even though my father is diagnosed with uspa and his mom has psoriatic arthritis, and they both have significant physical limitations, every time I go home, I hear comments like "you know those medications are dangerous." "Have you been exercising enough?" etc., etc.

I had a difficult time making myself take humira and methotrexate anyway and hope and pray I won't have any serious side effects. Whenever I go home, I still seem to jump on an emotional roller coaster and wonder if there might be a less risky way to handle the inflammation. After a few days of watching my father try to hide his pain and do things that cause him more pain, I realize that the medications are worth the risks for now.

I do wish I hadn't told them the medications I am on though. I think they feel needless guilt and worry too much about it all


I have been wildly, despairingly, acutely miserable, racked with sorrow, but through it all I still know quite certainly that just to be alive is a grand thing.

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